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[讨论] 奥术施法者的DC检定最高到底是多少?

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发表于 2007-10-16 00:29:03 | 显示全部楼层
穿不透别人魔抗,这法师就等于废了,总之,法师被削弱成垃圾了,唉……
发表于 2007-10-16 08:34:22 | 显示全部楼层
法系是被削弱了,但还不是垃圾。我个人觉得至少比1代强。法术中也有很多不要过豁免的,比如无耻的比格系列,飞弹,驱血术。至于免疫,那不是法师弱,是装备太逆天。但不是也有伤害减免,免疫重击,偷袭的装备,等于费了战士的一大利器。
发表于 2007-10-16 08:36:49 | 显示全部楼层
比格系列什么时候不用豁免?[s:3] 一直都是以坚韧作对抗........
我只是觉得恐怕是BUG所为而儿...........
发表于 2007-10-16 08:47:39 | 显示全部楼层
5,6,7都不用豁免,连对抗sr都不需要。8需要豁免,所以最废。9级的豁免不过仅是不会麻痹,还照样被钉住。至于伤害好像也有。
发表于 2007-10-16 08:50:12 | 显示全部楼层
游戏我还没怎么玩,这是从nwn2 wiki上看得,可能有错误,还请见谅。
发表于 2007-10-16 09:03:01 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 sorcererhx 于 2007-10-15 23:39 发表
一个30级的法师就算学了法术穿透也不一定能破41的sr,还不如瞬发一个抗力解析术保险,况且还需要那么多专长。




不是我瞎说,法师上来先放个大圣域,然后上BUFF,变谭森后砍也砍死武僧了~~~法师加速后未必比武僧跑的慢(那个脚底抹油跑的很快的~~)
而且法术其实在前面的2~3秒就放出来了,并不是第6秒才放出来~~除非一开始武僧就贴着你,否则跑过来也来不及~~况且就算被击倒,这一轮也打不死你的,击倒又有CD,等一下轮照样可以放魔法~~~
发表于 2007-10-16 09:14:27 | 显示全部楼层
Spell level:  Innate level: 7, Sorcerer/Wizard: 7  
School:  Evocation  
Components:  V, S  
Range:  Long  
Target/Area:  Single  
Duration:  1 Round/Level  
Save:  None  
Spell resistance:  Yes  
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Description
A giant hand appears and attacks the target. If the hand hits and succeeds in a grapple check the opponent will be held for the duration of the spell.

Only one grasping hand can affect the target at once.

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Working Notes
The grapple hit check is made if the caster overcomes the targets spell resistance, and is made using this formula:

Caster Roll: d20 + Primary Spell Ability Modifier + Caster level + 10 - 1
Target Roll: Target's full AC
If Caster Roll is greater or equal to the Target's AC, they made a successful grapple attempt. (The +10 -1 is hand size modifiers).

Right away, a grapple hold check is made to apply the starting round hold effect. There are no more spell resistance checks. The hold check uses the formula:

Caster Roll: d20 + Primary Spell Ability Modifier + Caster Level + 10 + 4
Target Roll: d20 + Full base attack bonus + Size Modifier + Strength Ability Modifier
If the casters roll is greater or equal to the target's roll, they have performed a successful grapple hold check.

An additional grapple hold check is made every single round up to the end of the spells duration. Each time the target fails a grapple hold check, they are immobilized for 6 seconds.
这是7级的比格手。注意下面一段,除非是我太蠢理解错了。9级的和这个院里一样,只是有伤害了。还有检定有微许变化


An effective "paralysis/stun" spell which doesn't rely on a Will Save - effective against lower BAB/Strength target such as opposing Sorcerors and Wizards, or, as long as the initial grapple AC check is passed, low strength Rogues, Bards and other creatures. It might effectively remove them from the entire combat if they do not have enough luck with rolls, or have a very low base attack bonus and Strength modifier compared to your own ability modifier and caster level.

The hold effect is not actual an actual Stun, but has similar effects. The best part is there is no immunity to it. A Bigby's Grasping hand will always affect the enemy regardless of their immunities or even if they have Freedom of Movement cast on them, or is of a race usually unaffected by Stun and Paralysis such as Undead.


The spell also is unique for an Evocation spell - it has no use of the standard modifiers of (Greater) Spell Focus or things that modify the standard Spell Save DC. This makes it useful for non-Evocation casters who need a good single target holding spell.
发表于 2007-10-16 14:24:05 | 显示全部楼层
[s:3] 5(还是6?)试过是不行的,绝对不是无豁免可以钉死人(因为我在原版洛尼对决就试过,不一定行)至于其它的,我要回去再试试才知...
不过话说如果是这么BT百发百钉住的话,那其他人还用玩的么?其它什么附魔魔法也不用用啦?直接定住就想怎么干就可以怎干了.......
(唔,找到一本当时旧的原版法术表,5那个护身应是100%的,但6的不行,我在洛尼对决中就是用这个)7那个要击中并要通个爪捉检定.....这个检定如何计?第9那个如何计?明明有写着VS坚韧?
发表于 2007-10-16 14:47:55 | 显示全部楼层
你看我写的那两个公式了吗?
Caster Roll: d20 + Primary Spell Ability Modifier + Caster level + 10 - 1
Target Roll: Target's full AC
If Caster Roll is greater or equal to the Target's AC, they made a successful grapple attempt. (The +10 -1 is hand size modifiers).
上面这个是作擒抱检定
Caster Roll: d20 + Primary Spell Ability Modifier + Caster Level + 10 + 4
Target Roll: d20 + Full base attack bonus + Size Modifier + Strength Ability Modifier
If the casters roll is greater or equal to the target's roll, they have performed a successful grapple hold check.
上面这个是抓的检定
只有这两个都过了才能钉住。只不过一般的职业(尤其是低bab职业)很难过而已。
要做两个检定,如果还要看save,那这个法术有什么用?
发表于 2007-10-16 14:51:52 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 sorcererhx 于 2007-10-16 14:47 发表
你看我写的那两个公式了吗?
Caster Roll: d20 + Primary Spell Ability Modifier + Caster level + 10 - 1
Target Roll: Target's full AC
If Caster Roll is greater or equal to the Target's AC, they m ...

[s:3] 但8、9级上面都写明要VS坚韧的啊?
施法等级:法师/巫师9
固有等级:9
学派:塑能
类别:
构成: V  G
施法半径:长
有效范围:1个目标
时效:6s/等级
反制魔法:
相关豁免:坚韧
魔法抵抗:可
一只强有力的巨手出现并攻击目标。如果击中并成功通过擒抓检定,目标将会在法术持续时间内处于定身状态并在每轮受到2D6+12的伤害。
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