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[Build] Crusader (十字军) (ZT)

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发表于 2007-1-11 19:47:41 | 显示全部楼层
我要说这BUILD若是出自国人之手铁定被批到体无完肤 [s:1]

其实老外想象力并不比咱们丰富,不论是VAULT还是官方BBS都鲜见令人印象深刻的BUILD,相比之下国内某玩家创造的所谓“妖孽”是极富想象力的

失望一下,还以为是lala姐自己的BUILD...
 楼主| 发表于 2007-1-11 20:33:44 | 显示全部楼层
NWN2 啊,近期里还真没工夫玩啊  [s:11]

先看看大家玩得如何了。
发表于 2007-1-11 21:30:28 | 显示全部楼层
老外对待别人都是很客气的。上次看了一个自称“ultimate”的奥武双修build,差不多就是把经典的龙脉狂战中的FB都换成Bard,这样BAB连16都没到也敢叫“ultimate”,下面虽然没有赞的但绝对没拍砖的。这种宽容的环境下虽然罕见突出的build,但build的数量很大,其中不少也不乏可取之处。
发表于 2007-1-11 22:17:18 | 显示全部楼层
引用第3楼Ericzjg2007-01-11 21:30发表的:
老外对待别人都是很客气的。上次看了一个自称“ultimate”的奥武双修build,差不多就是把经典的龙脉狂战中的FB都换成Bard,这样BAB连16都没到也敢叫“ultimate”,下面虽然没有赞的但绝对没拍砖的。这种宽容的环境下虽然罕见突出的build,但build的数量很大,其中不少也不乏可取之处。

这个还是和环境有关。

他们近战的BUILD基本都是很细微的变体,很少有新颖的点子出来,但大家的心态是探讨而不是依靠否定来换取自认为强者的虚荣,国内有些玩家还是缺乏这种成熟。
发表于 2007-1-11 23:23:40 | 显示全部楼层
恩,是个环境问题,他们很懂得尊重别人。老外清楚别人拿出的build都是人家满意的作品,像这个build的作者就说过“This is my favorite melee”,他们决不会泼冷水去打击人家的积极性,通常还会尽量给出肯定的评价。
发表于 2007-1-11 23:24:33 | 显示全部楼层
看看那个关于奥法骑士的战术文,也是在vault里的,老外还是会拍砖头的
发表于 2007-1-12 10:48:28 | 显示全部楼层
缺点老外也会指出的。vault上可以投票,评论里应该比较客气,不过投票可就不留情面了 。
发表于 2007-1-12 12:19:34 | 显示全部楼层
官网上的build都不是很bt
个别pw mod论坛里的还是有不错的
发表于 2007-1-12 13:17:15 | 显示全部楼层
前几天一直上不了vault,今天终于能上了,看了一下奥法骑士的那篇文章,感觉用词比较狂,带有EK无敌的论调,最后还专门yy了如何对付各类职业,被人批驳也很正常。
 楼主| 发表于 2007-1-11 15:10:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
一个老外的的Build ,有兴趣的可以看看
from NWN Vault

Crusader is a sworn enemy of evil, but unlike Paladin he doesn't enforce order. He relies on his combat powers but also has limited divine combat skills to fall back on when he faces greatest of evils. He mercilessly hunts demons, devils, undead and evil dragons.

Human STR16 DEX13 CON8 INT13 WIS12 CHA15

L 1 Fighter: power attack, cleave, weapon focus melee*
L 2 Fighter: combat expertise
L 3 Fighter: dodge
L 4 Fighter: great cleave +1CHA
L 5 Fighter
L 6 Fighter: mobility, spring attack, 4 ranks of intimidate
L 7 Frenzied berserker
L 8 Frenzied berserker +1STR
L 9 Frenzied berserker: Whirlwind attack
L10 Frenzied berserker
L11 Frenzied berserker
L12 Weapon master: Weapon of choice, Improved power attack +1STR
L13 Weapon master
L14 Weapon master
L15 Cleric: Divine might, Domains: water, good.
L16 Weapon master +1STR
L17 Weapon master
L18 Cleric: Divine shield
L19 Weapon master
L20 Weapon master +1STR

* Falchion or Scythe. If you want blunt weapon for RP reasons go for warhammer(wielded in two hands), not warmace.

Skills: only requiment is 4 ranks of intimidate for berserker. But since this build gets 4 points each level I suggest puting them into tumble, spellcraft, diplomacy and intimidate, even with non-class skill penalty you'll end up with 10 tumble, 20 spellcraft, 15+ diplomacy and intimidate (with your char bonus you'll be over 20 in those two). On levels 14 and 17 makes sure you save up 5 points for coming cleric level to pump diplomacy and spellcraft. Also put a single point into use magic device so that you can use simpler items like thiefs hood.

Free feats: you get supreme cleave, toughness, evasion, immunity to fear and WM feats. Not bad

Equipment: ring of protection +5, ring of resistance +3, nymph's cloak +8, +5 keen weapon, full plate, belt of cloud giant strenght, bracers of armour +8, boots of striding +8, amulet of natural armour +5.
These are easly found/crafted in OC, while you could make better items, like mithral full plate with dex bonus, I choose to stick with basic items in this example.

You have 4 1st level spells and I recommend protection from evil and 3 castings of bless - divine favor last to short to be usefull. You only need frenzy when facing powerfull casters that use death spells.

Asuming that you have cast protection from evil, bless, divine might&shield, have equipment from above and your foe is evil aligned:

Saves: Fortitude 22, Reflex 14, Will 15.
AC: 45
AB: +36/31/26/21 or +30/25/20/15 with improved PA.
Damage: 2d4 + 18 physical + 7 divine
with IPA: 2d4 +38 physical + 7 divine
Critical range: falchion 13-18/x3, scythe 17-20/x5


This is my favorite melee, it fits well into good hero story and doesn't have a stick up his like Paladin. This is obviously a powerplayer build (doh!) but I like to make some background for my characters, it makes gaming more fun.

There are lots of FB/WM builds out there, if someone has posted this specific build before I appologise, I've not seen it.

PS for some reason immunity to fear doesn't prevent dragons fearfull presence from working...I don't know if this is a bug.
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