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[讨论] 关于巡林客的PA,大怒!

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发表于 2008-3-19 11:43:01 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
火冒三丈


原计划弄一个近战力量型ranger,用天赋强化天敌PA效果,实现

双手时:IPA=24(FB职业强化) x3 (对抗天敌)=72dam的加值。

谁知测试后发现天敌PA的feat加了等于没加!!! 开始以为是不能和FB叠加,测试纯ranger,还是等于没加!!!  气死我也~
发表于 2008-3-19 12:17:21 | 显示全部楼层
呃 有没有战斗LOG的截图啊?
发表于 2008-3-19 12:26:09 | 显示全部楼层
我也起过这个念头,实验过后发现肯定不是24*3的效果
数字上来看双手PA最多估计只能+12吧,可能只有单手PA有效*3
双手PA的翻倍效果,IPA的效果,暴怒狂战士的强化PA\IPA效果估计都不能拿来*3
发表于 2008-3-19 12:28:19 | 显示全部楼层
否则一刀平砍100+,爆击300+~500+
别的职业还要混吗?
发表于 2008-3-19 12:37:57 | 显示全部楼层
我自己的游戏角色就是17RAG/3BG/10FB
开了IPA和DM,拿巨镰平砍宿敌的伤害就60左右,重击伤害基本上就是怪物满血,超强顺势斩下秒近身所有宿敌
逼得我后来改用巨剑了,不然重击太浪费
这样已经很变态了,楼主不要要求太高咯
发表于 2008-3-19 12:40:10 | 显示全部楼层

回复 #1 boboo 的帖子

你用的是啥武器?轻武器不能pa的说............
发表于 2008-3-19 12:48:25 | 显示全部楼层
不是很早我就引用过国外某达人作的测试结论么

以下结论引用自Baelzaron:

As for the PA/IPA in conjunction with FPA builds and EPA or SPA from FB, I had tested it before, but the only build was a Very Limited build.

FPA seems to be either incorrectly described or bugged for 2H. Using a greatsword I found the bonus power attack damage to be:

2H
PA + FPA: +12 = +3x3(2H FPA) +3(2H bonus)
IPA + FPA: +24= +6x3(2H FPA) +6(2H bonus)

Evidently, the x3 multiplier only applied to the base 1H bonus +3, or +6 and then added to the doubled bonus from 2H weapons. From the description (x2 with 1H and x3 to 2H on the 'bonus power attack damage'), one could've expected the bonus damage to have been +18 and +36 respectively. You get the same effect twohand wielding a 1H weapon.

2H
PA + FPA + EPA: +16 = +7(EPA) +3x3(FPA)
IPA + FPA + EPA: +32 = +14(EPA) +6x3(FPA)
PA + FPA + SPA: +18 = +9(SPA) +3x3(FPA)
IPA + FPA + SPA: +36 = +18(SPA) +6x3(FPA)

In conclusion, Ill leave this table (hopefully correct) to help build planning (I also tested 1Hers):

Damage/to-Hit exchange rate

(1H)
PA = +3/-3 1:1
IPA= +6/-6 1:1
PA + FPA= +6/-3 2:1
IPA + FPA= +12/-6 2:1
EPA = +5/-3 5:3
EIPA = +10/-6 5:3
EPA + FPA= +8/-3 8:3
EIPA + FPA= +16/-6 8:3
SPA = +6/-3 2:1
SIPA = +12/-6 2:1
SPA + FPA = +9/-3 3:1
SIPA + FPA = +18/-6 3:1

(2H)
PA = +6/-3 2:1
IPA= +12/-6 2:1
PA + FPA= +12/-3 4:1
IPA + FPA= +24/-6 4:1
EPA = +10/-3 10:3
EIPA = +20/-6 10:3
EPA + FPA= +16/-3 16:3
EIPA + FPA= +32/-6 16:3
SPA = +12/-3 6:1
SIPA = +24/-6 6:1
SPA + FPA = +18/-3 6:1
SIPA + FPA = +36/-6 6:1

*after reading darth baenare's post (Ty) and doublecheckign I realized I forgot to take off the base bonus from the 2H EPA/SPA totals. Now the 2H values should be correct, double the ratio of the 1H values.
发表于 2008-3-19 12:49:28 | 显示全部楼层
想错了 我以为是48 看LS的贴子明白了

编辑掉
发表于 2008-3-19 12:51:00 | 显示全部楼层
FB IPA+FAV PA是+12*3,双手已经算加了一倍,FAV再加一倍。如果按LZ这种想法,10倍重破斩岂不是变成圣武士LV*1024?[s:15]
发表于 2008-3-19 13:29:24 | 显示全部楼层
规则是对的 只是楼主理解错了罢了……

话说那个描述确实容易引起误解,规则中的乘法通常是累加而不是累乘

ps:确实老早了,记得回过baby的帖子
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